Comments on: Foto Friday – The Italian Synagogue http://israelity.com/2009/12/04/foto-friday-the-italian-synagogue/ Life beyond the conflict Sun, 20 May 2012 18:10:09 +0000 hourly 1 By: Nostalgia Sunday – Chanukah menorahs of Italy | ISRAELITY http://israelity.com/2009/12/04/foto-friday-the-italian-synagogue/comment-page-1/#comment-314457 Nostalgia Sunday – Chanukah menorahs of Italy | ISRAELITY Sun, 18 Dec 2011 05:55:04 +0000 http://israelity.com/?p=14368#comment-314457 [...] to Jewish life in Italy from the Middle Ages through the present. House in the same building as the Conegliano Italian-Jewish Synagogue, the Museum is well worth a visit, particularly during this month’s Hamshushalaim 2011 [...] [...] to Jewish life in Italy from the Middle Ages through the present. House in the same building as the Conegliano Italian-Jewish Synagogue, the Museum is well worth a visit, particularly during this month’s Hamshushalaim 2011 [...]

]]> By: Sergio http://israelity.com/2009/12/04/foto-friday-the-italian-synagogue/comment-page-1/#comment-295494 Sergio Fri, 04 Dec 2009 10:26:19 +0000 http://israelity.com/?p=14368#comment-295494 Actually... In Italy there is a specific MInhag, with its own prayer books, which is called Kadum, or Minhag Bene' Roma, or Loaz in the Talmud, which is neither Ashkenazi nor Sefardi but much older than both, and very similar in many aspects to the Yemenite minhag, which also has elements from the times of the First Temple and the Second, preceding the Babylonian Diaspora. The Ashkenazi Minhag is actually derived from the Italian Minhag, having the Ashkenazi communities been started by Rav Kalonimos, a Rabbi from Rome, in the IX Cent. V.E., who received permission from Charlemagne to create a community in Central Europe. In Italy there is only one fully Ashkenazi community, because of the city belonging to the Austro-Hungarian empire until second half of the XIX Cent. V.E.; and likewise there is only one Sefardic Community, which is Livorno (Leghorn), because the Medici family, the rulers in Toscany, invited the Jews being exiled from Spain in 1492 to move there, while the rest of Italy was either under Spanish control (the South) or under princes and governments hostile to Jews. There are, nowadays, after the recent forced Jewish migration from muslim countries, several Persian, Lybian, and Lebanese communities, however the bulk of the Jews of Italy follow and pray according to the Italian Minhag, with variations from city to city due to the general Italian tendency to particularism, even at the level of local dialects which are VERY different from one another, and the very recent unification (1871) under the Piedmontese Kingdom of Savoy. Actually… In Italy there is a specific MInhag, with its own prayer books, which is called Kadum, or Minhag Bene’ Roma, or Loaz in the Talmud, which is neither Ashkenazi nor Sefardi but much older than both, and very similar in many aspects to the Yemenite minhag, which also has elements from the times of the First Temple and the Second, preceding the Babylonian Diaspora.
The Ashkenazi Minhag is actually derived from the Italian Minhag, having the Ashkenazi communities been started by Rav Kalonimos, a Rabbi from Rome, in the IX Cent. V.E., who received permission from Charlemagne to create a community in Central Europe.
In Italy there is only one fully Ashkenazi community, because of the city belonging to the Austro-Hungarian empire until second half of the XIX Cent. V.E.; and likewise there is only one Sefardic Community, which is Livorno (Leghorn), because the Medici family, the rulers in Toscany, invited the Jews being exiled from Spain in 1492 to move there, while the rest of Italy was either under Spanish control (the South) or under princes and governments hostile to Jews.

There are, nowadays, after the recent forced Jewish migration from muslim countries, several Persian, Lybian, and Lebanese communities, however the bulk of the Jews of Italy follow and pray according to the Italian Minhag, with variations from city to city due to the general Italian tendency to particularism, even at the level of local dialects which are VERY different from one another, and the very recent unification (1871) under the Piedmontese Kingdom of Savoy.

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